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by tggzzz
Sat May 17, 2025 9:13 pm
Forum: Test Equipment
Topic: HP 204C
Replies: 74
Views: 7345

Re: HP 204C

Fitness for purpose is key. That requires an understanding of the purpose. Nonetheless, even if a user knows their purpose, matching the two requires someone who knows the equipment. with cheap equipment, it can be discarded if no good with expensive equipment, a salesman can spend time with a custo...
by tggzzz
Sat May 17, 2025 2:48 pm
Forum: Test Equipment
Topic: HP 204C
Replies: 74
Views: 7345

Re: HP 204C

It is rare[1] that newer equipment is worse than existing equipment, of course. It was poor judgement to say the least. Such highly visible poor judgement can colour marketplace perceptions for a long time ("bad then, why should I expect it to be good now" or "I'm not going to risk m...
by tggzzz
Sat May 17, 2025 12:11 pm
Forum: Test Equipment
Topic: HP 204C
Replies: 74
Views: 7345

Re: HP 204C

That's the point about that scope's FFT: it is not sufficient to be useful. That may have once been the case and for the old SDS1052DL Mike has I would agree due to its very limited feature set. The SDS1000 DL, CML and CML+, must have been introduced a long time ago. 15 years back or so. They were ...
by tggzzz
Sat May 17, 2025 8:45 am
Forum: Test Equipment
Topic: HP 204C
Replies: 74
Views: 7345

Re: HP 204C

There are all sorts of features it's easy to add to a DSO, such as voltage readings of various sorts. They are useful because you are often interested in voltage levels on a scope and they save you squinting at the display and fiddling about to refer to the scales. They are not as accurate as a che...
by tggzzz
Sat May 17, 2025 5:42 am
Forum: Test Equipment
Topic: HP 204C
Replies: 74
Views: 7345

Re: HP 204C

Then you could go to a FFT exclusive display and examine the menu for axis scaling and markers to place on peaks although I'm not sure if the DL models provided them. So modern Siglent equipment is like 1960s SAs and significantly more primitive than 1970s SAs? Disappointing. Not at all. These fair...
by tggzzz
Fri May 16, 2025 7:24 pm
Forum: Test Equipment
Topic: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) : Discussion and Group Therapy Thread
Replies: 3580
Views: 1555511

Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) : Discussion and Group Therapy Thread

Strange. A second PM to zenith is also stuck in my outbox. No funny characters etc.
by tggzzz
Fri May 16, 2025 1:42 pm
Forum: Test Equipment
Topic: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) : Discussion and Group Therapy Thread
Replies: 3580
Views: 1555511

Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) : Discussion and Group Therapy Thread

nixiefreqq wrote: Fri May 16, 2025 11:37 am tried to send you a PM.

it also appears to be stuck in my outbox.
I've received as normal, and replied; that is stuck in mt outbox too.
by tggzzz
Fri May 16, 2025 9:03 am
Forum: Test Equipment
Topic: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) : Discussion and Group Therapy Thread
Replies: 3580
Views: 1555511

Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) : Discussion and Group Therapy Thread

There are a couple of PMs stuck in my outbox; is the messaging system working?
by tggzzz
Thu May 15, 2025 6:50 pm
Forum: Test Equipment
Topic: Post a picture of a cat
Replies: 243
Views: 132223

Re: Post a picture of a cat

There are European Starlings (imported pest) and English Sparrows (another imported pest) nesting in and about our building which has got Harley's tail in knot. He is beside himself. If the screens weren't down I swear he'd jump out the window. :lol: Daughter's dog finally saw a cat on the terrace,...
by tggzzz
Thu May 15, 2025 1:23 pm
Forum: Test Equipment
Topic: HP 204C
Replies: 74
Views: 7345

Re: HP 204C

So it appears that the only real solution is the purchase a proper hp branded spectrum analyzer. I'll put it on my "wish" list. I've got useful results with my Digilent Analog Discovery, which also comes with a scope, dual AWG, digital pattern generator, simple LA, plus other tools create...
by tggzzz
Thu May 15, 2025 9:21 am
Forum: Test Equipment
Topic: HP 204C
Replies: 74
Views: 7345

Re: HP 204C

tautech wrote: Thu May 15, 2025 9:14 am Then you could go to a FFT exclusive display and examine the menu for axis scaling and markers to place on peaks although I'm not sure if the DL models provided them.
So modern Siglent equipment is like 1960s SAs and significantly more primitive than 1970s SAs?

Disappointing.
by tggzzz
Wed May 14, 2025 7:58 pm
Forum: Test Equipment
Topic: HP 204C
Replies: 74
Views: 7345

Re: HP 204C

MED6753 wrote: Wed May 14, 2025 7:29 pm So it's basically just eye candy? :roll:

My crusty old eyeballs are better TE.
Only in the sense that, say, the HP180 with S.A. plugins is eye candy ;)

Extra deeper understanding is needed before it can be understood.
by tggzzz
Wed May 14, 2025 7:03 pm
Forum: Test Equipment
Topic: HP 204C
Replies: 74
Views: 7345

Re: HP 204C

No scales?! Seriously? April 1st is long gone. :D That's prehistoric, or at least early 1960s. Even my 1970s and 1980s analogue spectrum analysers (Tek492, DP8562) have comprehensive readout of all the settings! Oh well, back to using a neon bulb as a voltage reference in a DVM, and having a front p...
by tggzzz
Wed May 14, 2025 5:26 pm
Forum: Test Equipment
Topic: HP 211A
Replies: 72
Views: 18211

Re: HP 211A

AVGresponding wrote: Wed May 14, 2025 4:58 pm Nixies? What are those?
I haven't got any device with numitron/minitron displays.

No, I don't want cockpit instruments nor petrol pumps, thank you very much.
by tggzzz
Wed May 14, 2025 5:24 pm
Forum: Test Equipment
Topic: HP 204C
Replies: 74
Views: 7345

Re: HP 204C

MED6753 wrote: Wed May 14, 2025 5:01 pm I suppose this is much more meaningful?
Not without indications of horizontal and vertical scales and offsets.
by tggzzz
Wed May 14, 2025 12:10 pm
Forum: Test Equipment
Topic: HP 204C
Replies: 74
Views: 7345

Re: HP 204C

MED6753 wrote: Wed May 14, 2025 11:07 am Show me the way to Nirvana. :D
Nah. Finding out for yourself is fun, and enables you to believe you understand your equipment :)
by tggzzz
Wed May 14, 2025 6:34 am
Forum: Test Equipment
Topic: HP 204C
Replies: 74
Views: 7345

Re: HP 204C

OK gang, here it is. I have really no clue what it all means. Comments welcome. Well, I have no clue what that specific instrument's display is trying to tell us, so only a few generic observations: expand the signal vertically so as to almost fill the whole screen. That will maximise the frequency...
by tggzzz
Tue May 13, 2025 7:09 pm
Forum: Test Equipment
Topic: HP 204C
Replies: 74
Views: 7345

Re: HP 204C

You guys kill me. Suggesting I go down all sorts of rabbit holes. My Siglent SDS1052DL does have some basic FFT functions but I trust my crusty old eyeballs. :P :P :D Go on, try it. See what it can do and what the noise floor is :twisted: Or get a Keithley 2015THD, and use the suffix :lol:
by tggzzz
Tue May 13, 2025 4:16 pm
Forum: Test Equipment
Topic: HP 204C
Replies: 74
Views: 7345

Re: HP 204C

Calibration was a bit fiddly but finally fell into place. Will burn-in for at least 2 hours then this project is complete. Oh no it isn't! Not until the spectral purity of that sine wave is checked out on a spectrum analyzer! No gots a spectrum analyzer. My tired old eyeballs are good enough. :D No...
by tggzzz
Tue May 06, 2025 8:14 am
Forum: Test Equipment
Topic: HP 211A
Replies: 72
Views: 18211

Re: HP 211A

We could have sworn that a fast 1800s style "windjammer" service would have got them to Western Australia faster! ... Unfortunately, nowadays,everybody seems to have returned to pre-windjammer days! My pension company office occasionally sends me letters. According to google maps and base...
by tggzzz
Mon May 05, 2025 3:50 pm
Forum: Test Equipment
Topic: Going free: Fluke 760A Voltage Calibrator
Replies: 45
Views: 7088

Re: Going free: Fluke 760A Voltage Calibrator

Oooh! Interesting. Isn't thread drift a wonderful thing.

I'll take time to read that tomorrow.

As for taking aerial shots, you might gain information but lose verisimilitude if you have the lenses more than 62.5mm apart. Think of relief maps with exaggerated vertical scale.
by tggzzz
Thu May 01, 2025 8:45 pm
Forum: Test Equipment
Topic: Tek 335
Replies: 10
Views: 2203

Re: Tek 335

Not familiar with the Sinclair unit so I looked at the internals. At least once you split the case all the circuit boards remain in place and accessible. Not so with the Tek 200 series. You pull it apart and circuit boards and a CRT literally explode all over the bench. Stuffing it all back togethe...
by tggzzz
Thu May 01, 2025 6:54 pm
Forum: Test Equipment
Topic: Tek 335
Replies: 10
Views: 2203

Re: Tek 335

MED6753 wrote: Thu May 01, 2025 5:43 pm But no where near as bad as these abominations. Try stuffing 5 pounds of crap into a 2 pound bag.
Is that better or worse than Sinclair stuffing 4oz of crap into an 8oz bag (SC110)? Discuss :)
by tggzzz
Thu May 01, 2025 5:22 pm
Forum: Test Equipment
Topic: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) : Discussion and Group Therapy Thread
Replies: 3580
Views: 1555511

Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) : Discussion and Group Therapy Thread

I assume you are not in a rush. I'm off on holiday for a fortnight on Thursday. I'll contemplate it. It would really have to be picked up and seen working. I have the impression you live around Cambridge, or at least roughly in the East Anglia area. Yes just off the end of the M11. An Edwin Abbott ...
by tggzzz
Wed Apr 30, 2025 10:49 am
Forum: Test Equipment
Topic: Interesting findings on the internet
Replies: 861
Views: 320884

Re: Interesting findings on the internet

While bumbling around looking for a picture of a hand card punch, I came across
https://hoc.lgfl.org.uk/resource.html

Short videos of what there is at TNMoC, plus other stuff. Looks like it is a KS2/3 teacher's resource.