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synx508
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Tektronix 465B with DM44

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I was given a rather nice Tektronix 465B with DM44 multimeter, manuals and service manuals. It had been a standby scope, bought secondhand 35 years ago, but had been stored in a garage for some of those years.
After cleaning off rather a lot of mould I decided it could enter the house and I could investigate further. Not being one to start things on a variac I plugged it in and it was mostly fine. The DM44 was displaying a single zero, the focus wasn't amazing and the focus control was very hard to turn. The 10x attenuator on channel 1 was intermittently providing x2 instead of x10. But we have a trace, the controls don't seem too noisy and the multimeter isn't totally broken so I decided to repair the multimeter first.
The DM44 manual is brilliant and the first question in its faultfinding block diagram, after checking power supply voltages, is "is there only a single digit on the display?". That was my fault, attributable to a missing clock pulse which is a symptom of a problem with a LM339 quad comparator. That was in a socket and maybe I should've just reseated it because it was one of *those* TI sockets, but I changed the IC instead and that restored the missing digits.
Once the digits were all lighting up I could see a missing segment in the second actual digit. Tektronix didn't cheap out here, the first digit is polarity. The middle segment only used to display either a - or not. The part number was the same for all the digits and the failed segment was not the middle one, so I desoldered digit 2 and the polarity digit and swapped them round. A zero parts fix is always good.
With the display now working I could revisit the channel 1 attenuator. These are weird hybrid-like boards in tiny plastic boxes, they have goldie-looking-pins and fit into those strange rubbery Tektronix sockets. The attenuators have a couple of variable capacitors so the frequency response can be adjusted, wiggling these caused the correct attenuation to momentarily appear but it didn't seem consistent. I removed the attenuator from its box, gave it a blast of compressed air, reassembled, cleaned all its pins with IPA and the problem seems to have vanished.
All that was left was to clean up more of the nasty black mould stuff and do a bit of "detailing" on the front panel. I suppose I should've fully dismantled it but it wasn't really that hard to clean, or that dirty. The hard front cover, still with a spare fuse, is present and did its job well. I would like to replace the knob on the DM44, though, as the plastic has departed.
It's a nice thing to use, but I've learned not to turn the intensity up too far, it can focus, but it's best with the intensity down. It will go absurdly bright, if required.
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Re: Tektronix 465B with DM44

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My first 465 was sufficiently bright to act as a torch. I was concerned about localise heating damaging the CRT, so only operated it defocused.

In the end I found the grid was disconnected inside the CRT, hence replacement required.

IIRC the DM44s have an interesting filter, just an opamp and capacitor on the input and output. Guaranteed not to add an offset

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Re: Tektronix 465B with DM44

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tggzzz wrote: Fri Jul 11, 2025 12:50 pm
IIRC the DM44s have an interesting filter, just an opamp and capacitor on the input and output. Guaranteed not to add an offset

Have fun.
Have had a lot of fun, the next step will be to do some proper performance verification but it's too hot for that at the moment. I need to do this for the 335, too, so perhaps I'll do them together. Probably won't happen soon, particularly with McMichael on the horizon.

I spotted the filter while I was reading the DM44 service manual on the way home from picking it up, I've been working with FDNRs recently so I wasn't entirely freaked out by it but it really does look strange in the schematic. Starkly minimal, as if it shouldn't work at all. It's quite eye-catching.
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Re: Tektronix 465B with DM44

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The attenuator switch decks on the 465B, as well as other 400 series, can be problematic with general wear and dirty contacts. 100% IPA will help, but months down the road you'll have to do it again.

The focus pot always locks up on these scopes. Put the scope up on it's rear feet and drip deoxit down the pot shaft. That will free it up.
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Re: Tektronix 465B with DM44

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MED6753 wrote: Fri Jul 11, 2025 6:46 pm The attenuator switch decks on the 465B, as well as other 400 series, can be problematic with general wear and dirty contacts. 100% IPA will help, but months down the road you'll have to do it again.
This has reminded me of the other action I took, one of the contacts was not aligned above the contact pad that it was supposed to make with, so I very carefully moved it, using a took that shouldn't affect it. It seemed that it was designed to be manually aligned and had been slightly misaligned. Everything *looked* immaculate inside the attenuator and there are no visible witness marks on the contact pads - which surprised me.

I'm hesitant to drip anything into the focus control and I only have Servisol contact cleaner/lubricant, not sure if that's safe. Should I get some deoxit?
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Re: Tektronix 465B with DM44

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synx508 wrote: Fri Jul 11, 2025 6:58 pm

I'm hesitant to drip anything into the focus control and I only have Servisol contact cleaner/lubricant, not sure if that's safe. Should I get some deoxit?
The Servisol should be OK. Just don't go crazy with it. Just a few drops down the pot shaft and work it in.
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