Re: Net Zero
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 10:54 pm
Mnem, it would help a lot if such cuts were implemented now, it would not be forever, but the 2030 timeline for the transition over to all new cars having to be electric is not a realistic one, the whole of Europe has already decided to push that date back to 2035. As already shown, they are making the greatest advances in extracting more useful power from smaller engines with less pollution and less fossil fuel being burnt than most countries are.
When diesel engines were first put in cars, they were hailed across the globe as the future, now we know differently, but we can and are doing much to clean up their impact. Electric cars with the current batteries are just moving the problem away from our shores and dumping the massive pollution problem that the mining of the materials for the batteries creates onto poorer countries where people are paid appalling wages to work in appalling conditions and with poor H&S to extract the materials which are hazardous to health, consume masses of water and leave huge great lagoons of highly toxic waste and radioactive to boot, seeping in the soil poisoning it. It is also robbing farmers of land that could be used to grow food on which we all need.
I'm not disagreeing with you that we need an alternative for the sake of mankind, I just don't think that electric cars, powered in the fashion they are, is the solution. Here in the UK we don't have the infrastructure for electric cars outside of major cities, nor do we have the generation capability to be able to provide power to charge them and keep everything else that we use electric for. Therefore, we need to continue looking at other means of powering cars, and we need to step up that research a lot before we run out of time.
But the truth is that industry creates the most of the pollution and that needs to be addressed first, reducing the engine sizes is another great step that can be done quickly to slow down the pace of polluting. The USA is one of the worst if not the worst when it comes to automobile polluting, look at the size of your engines, poor HP extraction from said engines and poor miles extracted from each gallon of gas.
In this video he makes some very valid points, for instance, he lives in a village of 25,000 residents and they have no public electric charge points.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW6N_igyBwo&t=3s
When diesel engines were first put in cars, they were hailed across the globe as the future, now we know differently, but we can and are doing much to clean up their impact. Electric cars with the current batteries are just moving the problem away from our shores and dumping the massive pollution problem that the mining of the materials for the batteries creates onto poorer countries where people are paid appalling wages to work in appalling conditions and with poor H&S to extract the materials which are hazardous to health, consume masses of water and leave huge great lagoons of highly toxic waste and radioactive to boot, seeping in the soil poisoning it. It is also robbing farmers of land that could be used to grow food on which we all need.
I'm not disagreeing with you that we need an alternative for the sake of mankind, I just don't think that electric cars, powered in the fashion they are, is the solution. Here in the UK we don't have the infrastructure for electric cars outside of major cities, nor do we have the generation capability to be able to provide power to charge them and keep everything else that we use electric for. Therefore, we need to continue looking at other means of powering cars, and we need to step up that research a lot before we run out of time.
But the truth is that industry creates the most of the pollution and that needs to be addressed first, reducing the engine sizes is another great step that can be done quickly to slow down the pace of polluting. The USA is one of the worst if not the worst when it comes to automobile polluting, look at the size of your engines, poor HP extraction from said engines and poor miles extracted from each gallon of gas.
In this video he makes some very valid points, for instance, he lives in a village of 25,000 residents and they have no public electric charge points.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW6N_igyBwo&t=3s