Certainly there are far too many people who aren't living on planet Earth

Certainly there are far too many people who aren't living on planet Earth
Different models for different concepts. A more convoluted model was necessary for something as complex as "the nature of wind on a global scale", and I was looking for some analogy I knew he had some understanding of. Also, as I said, an imperfect model.Cerebus wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 11:40 am No his problem is summed up in one sentence:
Someone who says the latter clearly has not learned Newtonian mechanics because he has just denied the veracity of Newton's third law of motion.Specmaster wrote: ↑Mon May 15, 2023 5:41 pm The theory of "For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction" does not stack up in that example, neither does it in other forms of motion
While all scientific knowledge is consensual and conditional on "unless we learn better in the future" I can think of no law of physics more accepted, less conditional nor more supported by the weight of everyday evidence than Newton's third law. Sure, in the last century or so we've had to qualify it with "unless things are too massive(general relativity), too fast (special relativity) or two small (quantum mechanics)" but it is the most tested and proven law of physics at everyday masses and speeds.
Graham's literally arguing with something that has had universal scientific consensus since relatively shortly after Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica was published 336 years ago. There's no way to sugar coat that.
A much simpler analogy to your rather convoluted torque converter one is a garden hose.
When I was a small child I loved playing with the garden hose (I still do). I quickly learned that you could, instead of watering the garden as you'd told dad you would do, push things about with a jet of water (and get told off). A jet of water (a fluid) in no different to a jet of gas (also a fluid) aka wind. I also quickly learned that the jet of water would push the hose backward and that if there wasn't a force applied by hand to deal with that "equal and opposite reaction" the hose would shoot off on its own. The jet has to have something to push back against so that it can push things in front of it. So by about age 5 I had a solid empirical understanding of Newton's 3rd law, as did all the rest of us that played with garden hoses. I was about 12 or 13 before I was formally taught that phenomenon had a name: "Newton's third law of motion" and that it also happened with more rigid things like the floor pushing up to resist my weight.
*At this point in time. A few millennia ago, the moon was close enough it would be bigger than the sun in an eclipse, and in a few millennia more, it will be far enough away to only provide annular eclipses.Cerebus wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 10:49 am One person, I forget who, said that if interstellar travel was practical then we'd already know because earth would be a tourist attraction. Why? How rare is a planet that has a moon just the right size to just fit over the sun during a total solar eclipse?* So, if interstellar travel was practicable every total solar eclipse there would be hoards of aliens amoungst the crowds of humans watching the eclipse.
The point I was trying to make was just as you describe above with "the floor pushing up to resist my weight", that is what I call an equal and opposite reaction, but if the floor was not strong enough to resist your weight, it would simply give way, and you would go through the floor and continue falling until you landed on something that was strong enough to push back and stop your fall.Cerebus wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 11:40 am When I was a small child I loved playing with the garden hose (I still do). I quickly learned that you could, instead of watering the garden as you'd told dad you would do, push things about with a jet of water (and get told off). A jet of water (a fluid) in no different to a jet of gas (also a fluid) aka wind. I also quickly learned that the jet of water would push the hose backward and that if there wasn't a force applied by hand to deal with that "equal and opposite reaction" the hose would shoot off on its own. The jet has to have something to push back against so that it can push things in front of it. So by about age 5 I had a solid empirical understanding of Newton's 3rd law, as did all the rest of us that played with garden hoses. I was about 12 or 13 before I was formally taught that phenomenon had a name: "Newton's third law of motion" and that it also happened with more rigid things like the floor pushing up to resist my weight.
Hasn't he been burned at the stake for practising black magic yet?BU508A wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 7:34 pm Machining and Microwaves has a new video.
"3D Microwave Focussing Lenses EXPLAINED for non-specialists!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUcUKF9AdQM
Specmaster wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 9:07 pmThe point I was trying to make was just as you describe above with "the floor pushing up to resist my weight", that is what I call an equal and opposite reaction, but if the floor was not strong enough to resist your weight, it would simply give way, and you would go through the floor and continue falling until you landed on something that was strong enough to push back and stop your fall.Cerebus wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 11:40 am When I was a small child I loved playing with the garden hose (I still do). I quickly learned that you could, instead of watering the garden as you'd told dad you would do, push things about with a jet of water (and get told off). A jet of water (a fluid) in no different to a jet of gas (also a fluid) aka wind. I also quickly learned that the jet of water would push the hose backward and that if there wasn't a force applied by hand to deal with that "equal and opposite reaction" the hose would shoot off on its own. The jet has to have something to push back against so that it can push things in front of it. So by about age 5 I had a solid empirical understanding of Newton's 3rd law, as did all the rest of us that played with garden hoses. I was about 12 or 13 before I was formally taught that phenomenon had a name: "Newton's third law of motion" and that it also happened with more rigid things like the floor pushing up to resist my weight.
So in that case initially there was not an equal and opposite reaction, hence you fell through the floor.
Not yet... he has very good aim.Cerebus wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 9:22 pmHasn't he been burned at the stake for practising black magic yet?BU508A wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 7:34 pm Machining and Microwaves has a new video.
"3D Microwave Focussing Lenses EXPLAINED for non-specialists!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUcUKF9AdQM
Thanks for sharing, I think that must have taken up a hell of a lot of time building, programming and setting it all up, to say nothing about the sheer power he must have used to power everything.BU508A wrote: ↑Fri May 19, 2023 7:19 pm For those who haven't seen or heard it:
The Final Countdown from Europe, played by the Floppotron. It is version 3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-WakfBNHD0
Also a metric ton of 12v and 5v connections plus data lines.
And who doesn't know that after dipping ones toes into RF ? That you learn real quick !BU508A wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 6:12 am https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmavUlb8eAQ
One user wrote below in the comments:
"This video has reinforced my belief, as both a mechanical and AI/ML engineer that has built and flown hardware in space, that RF engineers are dark wizards in possession of eldritch magic."
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A friend of mine, many years ago, had "a nice little earner" fixing tube type audio amplifiers (which were the most common types at that time).mnementh wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:44 am Yeah, RF burns are the worst.
mnem
another mnemory... my buddy Brian and I were futzing around on Children's Band (hey - we WERE kids then) trying to reach his dad doing a long haul in his truck upstate, and I was messing around with the cover off of my Yaesu FT-101EX, trying to trim the multiband antenna that came with the rig (imagine your favorite "two buddies drinking story", complete with one of them nose buried in an instruction pamphlet) and he noticed the glowing 6JS finals...
"Hey... whadda these do..."
*I look up just in time to see him pointing towards one shiny exposed anode cap*
"DON'T TOUCH TH..."
*ZZZZZZZZAAAAAAPPPPP!!!*
"AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!"![]()